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LASER talks at Roy Ascott Studio: Technoetic Aesthetics of Second Order Cybernetics PART I and II

Technoetic Aesthetics of Second Order Cybernetics PART I and II


LASER Talks at Roy Ascott Studio (Hybrid):Technoetic Aesthetics of Second Order Cybernetics PART I and II

LASER chair: Clarissa Ribeiro, Ph.D., Program Director of the Roy Ascott Studio Advanced Program in Technoetic Arts in Shanghai.



PART I: November 20, 2023, 1:30 pm to 4:30 pm, China Standard Time CST (UTC+8)

PART II: November 22nd, 2023, 5:00 pm to 7:00 pm, China Standard Time CST (UTC+8)

Where: Roy Ascott Studio, DeTao at SIVA 2200 Wenxiang Road, Songjiang Shanghai, China 201620

Access Info: Zoom link: 加入 Zoom 会议 ,, zoom number: 536 073 9000



From July 2023 to February 2024, LASER talks at Roy Ascott Studio in Shanghai is inviting artists, scientists, humanists, and technologists together for informal gatherings to explore Roy’s 100 Terms and Definitions for the Post-biological Era coined in his ‘Technoetic Aesthetics’ written in 1997. For the November 20 (Part 1) — November 22 (Part 2) edition, hybrid — in person at DeTAO Building 7th floor, Conference Room, Shanghai Institute of Visual Arts, and online on Zoom, the invited speakers will discuss the Technoetic Aesthetics of ‘Cybernetics of Cybernetics’ (Second-Order Cybernetics) — considering all knowledge and creative efforts can be seen as dependent on the observer involvement. The invited speakers’ choices from Roy Ascott’s glossary include:

José dos Santos Cabral Filho


A weakness of Western Architecture that shows too much concern with surface

and too little concern with transformative systems.

Structural analysis

Psycho-therapy for intelligent buildings may be more appropriate than putting ourselves

in analysis. Think of all the psychotic and schizophrenic places you know.

Daniel Lenz 

Cyburbs: We shall all move from the city to the cyburbs, wormholing effortlessly between real

and virtual locations, meeting with real bodies and telepresences in the same continuum.

Claudia Westermann

Radical constructivism/Radical Connectivism

The radical constructivism of post-biological philosophy joined with the radical

connectivism of telematic art can provide a scenario of living in which we take on

responsibility for the construction of our own identity and the reality it inhabits.

Michelle Lewis-King

Five-fold path

The Tao of telematics has five steps: connectivity, immersion, interaction,

transformation, emergence.

Cross-sectoral sensibility

A new creative practice, unnamed and unbounded, crosses the domains of art, science,

technology and philosophy, but is centred in none . Its principal concern is with mind,

states of being, and the process of becoming.


Having esoteric, occult, spiritual knowledge revealed through technology.

Invited Speakers Bios:

José dos Santos. Cabral Filho, Ph.D., architect, and researcher, is an Associate Professor at the School of Architecture of the Federal University of Minas Gerais, Brazil. He has a Master and a Ph.D. from Sheffield University, UK. Cabral was a visiting scholar at the School of Architecture at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, at NTNU in Trondheim, Norway, and at the Royal College of Art in London, UK. His research focuses on the liberating potential of Information and Communication Technologies, seeking a far-reaching adoption of play into digital design, taking the game as a framework for the co-existence of determinism and non-determinism. His main interests include the philosophy of Vilem Flusser, Second-Order Cybernetics, as well as architectural performances and electronic music.

Daniel Lenz, Ph.D., Architect, and researcher, has a Ph.D. in Architecture and Urban Planning from the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro — PROURB/UFRJ. Having Complexity as a background, his Ph.D. thesis investigates the relation between social network topology and the city. Lenz has a Master in Architecture (March) in Technology and City from the University of Campinas, Sao Paulo, exploring Performative Architecture. His research interests include Information Technology applied to architecture, algorithmic simulations, digital materialization, general systems theory, and network topology. He has a B.Arch. from the Federal University of Ceara and a Diploma in Mechatronics from the Federal Center for Technological Education, Ceara, Brazil.

Claudia Westermann , Ph.D. is an artist and architect, licensed with the German Chamber of Architects and a senior associate professor in architecture at Xi’an Jiaotong-Liverpool University in Suzhou, China. Informed by second-order cybernetics, her works are concerned with the ecologies, poetics and philosophies of art and architectural design. They have been widely published and exhibited, including at the Venice Biennale (architecture), the Moscow International Film Festival, ISEA Symposium for the Electronic Arts, the Center for Art and Media (ZKM) in Karlsruhe, Germany and the Michigan State University Museum. She is an editor of the journal Technoetic Arts: A Journal of Speculative Research, sits on the executive committee of the American Society for Cybernetics and is a member of the CRAC Collective.

Contact: @litradesign 

Michelle Lewis-King, Ph.D.

Michelle is a Professor of New Media and is a performance artist, therapist, and scholar. Her projects draw on her experience as a media artist, Chinese medicine physician, and medical humanities scholar, to re-stage the Chinese medicine encounter within a digital performance context to create immersive spatial audio environments that catalyze new social encounters with technology and medicine from cross-disciplinary and cross-cultural perspectives. She has exhibited internationally in venues and festivals such as the V&A Museum and Ars Electronica and has served as panel chair for conference tracks on embodied sound at Re:SOUND 2019, Aarhus University, organized symposia on art, Chinese medicine, and technics with Yuk Hui and Judith Farquhar at the University of Chicago Beijing, and is represented by 4DSOUND, Budapest.


The Roy Ascott Studio Technoetic Arts advanced art course is based on a research-creation paradigm, involving the student in both theoretical and practical work, through the convergent field of art, technology, and consciousness studies. Over the four years of the course, students are immersed in a dynamic framework of understanding, knowing, creating, and exposing that evolves and manifests through all aspects of artistic expression and applications of science and technology.

November 20th, 2023 1:30 PM to November 22nd, 2023 7:00 PM
DeTao at SIVA 2200 Wenxiang Road, Songjiang
Hybrid / Shanghai, 31 201620
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Phone: +5585998646100